After a while, the second fake entity entered the game, pretending to be Michel Belz from Singapore.
Contact details provided:
The contact with the victim was done on Skype, the fraudster claiming that China is the main market and most of his clients are from that country. The victim asked if they can check the credentials of the supplier, talking with other of their clients. The supplier refused:
Our company may not want to give out our customers details
I hope you will understand these
but I can assure you our chips are perfect
Conditions for doing the business:
Victim: payment release after goods collection in one day
michel Belz: total payments? or partial payment and then full balance when goods are collected and checked? if you are buying 40 units we can do 30% deposits and then full balance when goods are rceieved.
we are shipping from hongkong so you will get stocks same day. we have the goods in HK now, at our customers warehouse. and we can push them out to you immediately, once we confirm payment deposits we will ask them to ship to you.Victim: sorry, we only check before payment. since you cant provide reference and not trading recording
michel Belz: I do undertsnad but I am not asking for full payment, I am only asking for down paymnt and once goods are received full balance follows immediatly
Victim: can you trade us face to face for first time?
michel Belz: this is not a problem. but I am not in HK now. i am in my home town - Israel.
Victim: can you ask to have a check in HK? we will not taken goods before payment you get
Scammer: yes i know you can not take goods before payments, but my point is we don't want you to see our seller...but if you place order we can ask them to send to you in our name anywhere in china. trust me our stocks are very great. and you will not have problem giving us full balance after checking.
The next day:
michel Belz: I can give you a reference if you are ready to gurantee to mee that you will not deal with my customers directly for any reason. I will add you to a group chat with my reference
The reference was an established company the victim knew about. The third party company contacted the victim. The victim was convinced they are dealing with a real supplier.
michel Belz: when are you opening your Order with us? you know stock come and go and prices will never be the same all the time. I really want to start a business with you as I understand you are some of the fastest growing companies in the components market.
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michel Belz: this will come from USA. delivery time is 4 days. we can supply at 4600USD from the USA just to build busiessnes relationship. all goods going to your customer or your warehouse?
When will deposits be made after issuing Invoice, we will provide our hongkong partner account details for payments so if made today we can receive today and prepare shipping.
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michel Belz: i will discuss with my team and update you. team base Singapore - mostly we do this so we can keep funds within HK and do turnover easily. i will talk to finance department and then get back to you
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michel Belz: Ok we will receive via our offshore account in HK as follow :
CR No: 2544611
Account name NINGWEI TRADE CO., LIMITED
Account number : 864506014655
Swift UBHK HKHH
Bank Name : ICBC Bank
Address: ICBC Tower 33 floor 3 garden Road Central Hongkong
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michel Belz: we prefer to receive in HK so we can have easy acces in HK and also same day . No worry NINGWEI TRADE CO., LIMITED is our company too . we will be shipping with NINGWEI TRADE CO., LIMITED name so you can give us PO in that name
After few days:
Victim: is xxx (the third party company) make the shipment for you ?
michel Belz: yes. we sell to them and they buy from us depends on the situation
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michel Belz: i got your PO. but paymnt term for this is different. (...) we take 100% deposits especially for small others like this, but i want to create a business relationship with you
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Victim: surely I have faith with you guys but make it 30% please,I had already discussed with team yesterday
michel Belz: when will this deposit be made? deposit 30% is 18,000USD and balance is 42,000 immedialy after delivery. please you have to adjust that PO to mention that balance will be made within 24 hours after goods arrive at delivery address. is it possible to make deposit tommrow Thursday so we can dispatch on Friday?
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michel Belz: As per skype discusions Please find attached Proforma Invoice, kindly peruse carefully and then append your signature on the space provided for you to do so and send back signed copy. When making payments, take note of the PI number and after payments has been made kindly foward us the scan copy of the payment slip for payments tracking.
In and between, the supplier claimed to be interested in buying products from the victim also.
michel Belz: I have some request for sever option from iran and also cisco equimnets
After the victim sent the requested details:
michel Belz: thanks for your email on the HPE and cisco. also please send me some stocks pictures. My team mate will arrive Hongkong next week Wednesday and we will love him to check the stocks if they are in Hongkong.
Victim: the goods is not avaliable, if you place order we will need to make the booking to hp and cisco. total could be arranged in one month.
michel Belz: can these stocks be gathered before a month? buyer need them faster. I will be attending a seminar tomorrow, so I may not be able to catch you during your office hours, but I will look at for the find and update you on both payments confirmation goods delivery and also on what or client and us conclude n the HPE an cisco stocks. About My partner will be going to china this week and we can handle delivery to your china mainland address without tax.. we will charge you just a token for this service, I will update you on that as well. please send me pictures and prices dlivered to Dubai.